Pop Critics: More on Lost “Something Nice Back Home”
jina
· 1 year ago
Welcome Adam! Nice to have you officially here. And your insights are great, especially the smoke monster/smoke detector thing. I completely think that it is Clementine that Kate is checking in on. She is the only thing that Sawyer really cares about (besides himself).
Also, I know a bunch of people are saying they didn't like this episode as much, but I thought it was great. It was so character driven, which is really what makes Lost unique - being able to unravel the mysteries and suspense while still peeling back the layers to each character.
Adam
· 1 year ago
Thanks, Jina! It's nice to be here! And I agree, I think a lot of times people (myself included) get too caught up in the overall story and mystery and neglect paying attention to the characters, which is ultimately the most rewarding. It was definately one of the best character stories in the series.
Jason
· 1 year ago
Welcome aboard, Adam!
I really enjoyed this episode too. I didn't catch the smoke detector connection when I watched it but it makes sense now that you mention it.
I'm not sure about the cosmic forces making a course correction thing. I think there might be a better explanation for it at some point, but it's better than nothing now I guess.
Kory
· 1 year ago
@ Adam - Welcome! Great insight to last night's show. I am with Jina re Kate and the favor to Sawyer. I think the favor has something to do with Clementine.
Mike
· 1 year ago
Yeah, some people don't like the shows that have more character development as opposed to action/smoke monsters, but I dig them all just the same.
Good stuff, I forget about things like Clementine...
BTW, now I want to read Millenium, even though it's all spoiled for me now :)
Adrian
· 1 year ago
Awesome write-up, Adam. Great catch about the smoke detector. I am confused about one thing, how were we led to believe that Penny 'may' have been the one parachuting down to the island?
Mike
· 1 year ago
I forgot how, but I know we all thought it was going to be Penny in the parachute...
Adrian
· 1 year ago
I know that he had convinced himself because of his flashes that it was Penny, but I'm not sure how accurate that could have been.
Mike
· 1 year ago
Maybe that was it...we figured it was her because of Desmond's flashes.
DadofIanI
· 1 year ago
Didn't Kate say "He'll" be wondering where I am, so it can't be Clementine. Jack has to know who he is as well and there has to be some animosity for there meeting is covert. Ben is not one of the Six, he has to be some form of conduit between the island and the world. Good point about the smoke detector.
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Adam
· 1 year ago
Thanks for the welcome, all!
Really, I'd have to go back and watch that particular episode, but I remember thinking he knew it would be Penny. Naomi even had the picture of Penny and Desmond. I remember thinking that when they flipped open her helmet and it was revealed to be *not* Penny, that it must be because something in the time line changed.
But as always, I may be way off. Like I said, I'd have to re-watch that one.
1. I'm currently re-watching season 2, so I'll double check soon, but I wonder if the person Kate was talking to was the woman that had Sawyer's daughter Clementine. She's met Kate before and I can't remember what her name is though I JUST watched the episode in which we first saw her (The Long Con.) That would be something that I could see Sawyer asking Kate to do: go check on his daughter.
2. I knew it was Kate in the shower when Jack went downstairs to the kitchen... my nerdy butt recognized the house from the episode of her trial. :-)
3. I think when it comes to Hurley seeing Charlie outside and his fellow patient seeing him too is people assuming that is correct. What if that man telling Hurley about the guy staring at him was TOO a part of his hallucination? Just a theory.
Ok, I was commenting as I read so now I see that you did mention Clementine at the end. I think Kate was totally talking to Clementine's Mom. Also, I think this last episode kinda confirmed my theory from early this season (Kate's trial episode) that Jack couldn't be around Aaron because somewhere along the line he learns that Aaron is his nephew and there's some guilt there because Claire was left behind. I don't think she's dead. I don't think Jin and Sawyer are either, by the way. But, I don't think she's dead because the key has always been that SHE has to raise that boy. That is why the psychic put her on the plane to begin with. I think that will play a part in them returning to the island... yes, I think before series' end they will return. Anyway, when Jack yelled at Kate, "Your son?! You're not even related to him!" I felt the unspoken, "... I AM!" was clear. At least to me anyway. Also, all of that being played out to us at the same time Claire sees Christian on the island is a little too coincidental.
Just my four cents.
Nina
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Nina
· 1 year ago
Adam, you're right. That whole episode we were supposed to believe that was Penny who would be revealed when he pulled the helmet back.
Adam
· 1 year ago
Nina!!! Good catch about the house, I didn't realize it was the same one. And also thats a good point about Hurley's friend being a vision, too. Its entirely possible.
What Im wondering about now is the "Hurley Bird." Remember that?? It has nothing to do with what were talking about, but in the first two season finales there was a green bird that flew over Hurley's head and yelled his name. I want to know the significance to that, or if its just another one of his visions! And maybe they aren't visions at all, but rather some kind of psychic phenomenon that gets labeled as "crazy" in the outside world but "special" on the island.
Yeah, I definitely think Jack knows that Aaron is his nephew, and I totally get why he would feel guilty about being around him... it might be a constant reminder of who they left behind. Though, it did seem clear that Sawyer, at least, stayed voluntarily.
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Kory
· 1 year ago
@ Nina - Some great insights! I did not give much attention to Jack's comment to Kate: “Your son?! You’re not even related to him!� However, now that you brought it up, I agree with you. Jack's comments certainly hint that he knows he is related to Aaron.
Mike
· 1 year ago
Welcome to the site Nina, going to be good having another Lost addict around :)
You guys are both right about those Jack comments...I never thought that he knew about Aaron being his nephew...until now.
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Also, I know a bunch of people are saying they didn't like this episode as much, but I thought it was great. It was so character driven, which is really what makes Lost unique - being able to unravel the mysteries and suspense while still peeling back the layers to each character.
I really enjoyed this episode too. I didn't catch the smoke detector connection when I watched it but it makes sense now that you mention it.
I'm not sure about the cosmic forces making a course correction thing. I think there might be a better explanation for it at some point, but it's better than nothing now I guess.
Good stuff, I forget about things like Clementine...
BTW, now I want to read Millenium, even though it's all spoiled for me now :)
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Really, I'd have to go back and watch that particular episode, but I remember thinking he knew it would be Penny. Naomi even had the picture of Penny and Desmond. I remember thinking that when they flipped open her helmet and it was revealed to be *not* Penny, that it must be because something in the time line changed.
But as always, I may be way off. Like I said, I'd have to re-watch that one.
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1. I'm currently re-watching season 2, so I'll double check soon, but I wonder if the person Kate was talking to was the woman that had Sawyer's daughter Clementine. She's met Kate before and I can't remember what her name is though I JUST watched the episode in which we first saw her (The Long Con.) That would be something that I could see Sawyer asking Kate to do: go check on his daughter.
2. I knew it was Kate in the shower when Jack went downstairs to the kitchen... my nerdy butt recognized the house from the episode of her trial. :-)
3. I think when it comes to Hurley seeing Charlie outside and his fellow patient seeing him too is people assuming that is correct. What if that man telling Hurley about the guy staring at him was TOO a part of his hallucination? Just a theory.
Ok, I was commenting as I read so now I see that you did mention Clementine at the end. I think Kate was totally talking to Clementine's Mom. Also, I think this last episode kinda confirmed my theory from early this season (Kate's trial episode) that Jack couldn't be around Aaron because somewhere along the line he learns that Aaron is his nephew and there's some guilt there because Claire was left behind. I don't think she's dead. I don't think Jin and Sawyer are either, by the way. But, I don't think she's dead because the key has always been that SHE has to raise that boy. That is why the psychic put her on the plane to begin with. I think that will play a part in them returning to the island... yes, I think before series' end they will return. Anyway, when Jack yelled at Kate, "Your son?! You're not even related to him!" I felt the unspoken, "... I AM!" was clear. At least to me anyway. Also, all of that being played out to us at the same time Claire sees Christian on the island is a little too coincidental.
Just my four cents.
Nina
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What Im wondering about now is the "Hurley Bird." Remember that?? It has nothing to do with what were talking about, but in the first two season finales there was a green bird that flew over Hurley's head and yelled his name. I want to know the significance to that, or if its just another one of his visions! And maybe they aren't visions at all, but rather some kind of psychic phenomenon that gets labeled as "crazy" in the outside world but "special" on the island.
Yeah, I definitely think Jack knows that Aaron is his nephew, and I totally get why he would feel guilty about being around him... it might be a constant reminder of who they left behind. Though, it did seem clear that Sawyer, at least, stayed voluntarily.
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You guys are both right about those Jack comments...I never thought that he knew about Aaron being his nephew...until now.