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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

R.A. Porter — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 10:42:12 -0000

@Robert - Kirk's style is less flashy, but far more efficient. The Kirk is his signature move, but if you look closely you'll see that he's using a blend of Krav Maga and Brazillian street fighting with a smattering of Judo thrown in. I believe Star Fleet adopted that style in 2297. All Jackie's blinged out moves might confound and confuse a lesser opponent, but Kirk is immune to them.

And as for Shatner making fun of himself, have you never heard his "Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds"? Or seen his "Rocketman"? He's *always* been willing to poke a little fun.

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Robert — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:33:55 -0000

I don't agree with "most", but he does complex moves that Kirk could never hope to match. Have you ever watched Kirk fight and think "man, how does he do that?" Of course not, because he doesn't do anything particularly interesting. To be fair, that's because he's so old, and from the old man style of fighting. Were he a modern type of bad ass, he'd probably do some more interesting stuff...or at least his stunt man would. Ahem. ;)

Jackie has also always been able to poke fun at himself, which Shatner has only recently learned to do.

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Mike — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:05:46 -0000

Yeah, but the thing about Jackie is most of his moves don't go right and end up on gag reels for his films :)

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Robert — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:51:26 -0000

Well, sure. Some people even think non-physical brainiacs constitute bad ass, a view that has thus far been handily defeated. ;)

I would point out that The One True Action hero has all those qualities you mentioned, of course. Jim T. only has the one signature move, as I have pointed out before. I disagree with the VDG, since it would be unfair to take it away from Spock, who as you may recall was actually a bigger bad ass than Kirk, though I suppose not so much of a ladies man. (Although his younger, reborn self did poke Kirstie Allie before she was eaten by the crazy beast that stole her name, so that's worth something.)

Don't get me wrong; Kirk is cool. He's simply not as bad ass as Jackie.

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Jason — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:33:18 -0000

But you see Robert, the problem is, different people have different ideas of what constitutes a "bad ass." Some people think Jackie Chan is a bad ass because he has superior martial arts skills. A valid point. However, others think that Captain Kirk is a bad ass because even though he doesn't possess great fighting skills he still has several signature moves, is quite the ladies man, and always wins at the end of the day. That's why we are voting. To see which view prevails in the end.

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Robert — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:45:58 -0000

The very fact that we can all see him making a fool of Kirk is why the good Cap'n has no chance. Plus, any fan of Chan knows he usually has multiple hot chicks in his movies as well.

And yes, it is a superior fighting style. Kirk is like McClane without the obvious toughness and "never quit" attitude. Without the "Jim Kirk", he'd have nothing to even refer to as a bit of style at all. Let's be honest. This should be about what's right and who's a Bad Ass, not some popularity contest. Save that for the Presidential race.

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Cap'n Schwartz — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:48:03 -0000

@Jason LOL.... I can actually see it as you described it...

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Jason — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:00:19 -0000

Jackie Chan is able to stay in the fight long past the time we expected him to fold. This is due, not to a superior fighting style, but rather the fact that he keeps running and bouncing off walls so much that Captain Kirk simply cannot catch him.

Chan attempts to defeat Kirk by tossing random items of furniture at the Captain but Kirk easily dodges these fast moving projectiles despite the fact that he has a lady on one arm and is wearing a newly starched uniform. The fight continues...

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Mike — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:52:16 -0000

Kirk is getting upset!

"Khahhhhhnnnnnnnnnnn! Khahhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn!"

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

TrouseredApe — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:49:52 -0000

@ R.A. and Cap'n - lol

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Cap'n Schwartz — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:48:40 -0000

Yeah.. the Capn!!! for crying out loud... :)

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

R.A. Porter — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:48:23 -0000

Ape's right. It's ridiculous. The Captain would have dispatched Jackie (isn't that a girl's name?) and seduced his women by now.

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

TrouseredApe — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:44:56 -0000

It's not like he's Kirk Cameron or anything - we are talking about the Captain here - ugh...

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

TrouseredApe — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:44:17 -0000

I can't believe Kirk and Chan are tied - a travisty.

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Jason — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 07:34:52 -0000

Kirk is right behind Jackie Chan...only three votes behind.

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Mike — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:05:46 -0000

Thanks Cap'n for stating "24 hours a day"...

Going to start calling you "Cap'n Obvious" :)

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

TrouseredApe — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:16:02 -0000

Of course - lol

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Cap'n Schwartz — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:15:26 -0000

@ Ape, lol... nice pun "24 hours a day" =)

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

TrouseredApe — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:14:08 -0000

He does - 24 hours a day.

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Kory — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:12:49 -0000

As expected, Bauer is kicking some ass!

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Cap'n Schwartz — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 19:31:09 -0000

Never count a Capn out!!

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Mike — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:16:40 -0000

Jackie Chan starting to pull ahead...

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

TrouseredApe — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:55:19 -0000

Oh popcritics
How I miss ye

Bauer and Chan - the other two don't have a chance...

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Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

Jason — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 12:46:16 -0000

@Kory - Well, I had to think it out carefully, making sure to put myself into the situation so I would make the correct choice. It was a tough call, but I think I voted the correct way.

Re: Ultimate Bad Ass: Round 2 - Jack Bauer bracket

R.A. Porter — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:57:30 -0000

@Jason was definitely right on with both battles. Fortunately, I didn't need anyone to tell me how Captain McLovin-all-the-alien-chicks would do battle so I voted correctly! :)

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